Jhoria Englside
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Posted - 2009.02.22 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Edited by: Yakia TovilToba on 21/02/2009 10:41:10
Originally by: Khrillian
To quote the EULA: You have no interest in the value of your time spent playing the Game, for example, by the building up of the experience level of your character and the items your character accumulates during your time playing the Game. Your Account, and all attributes of your Account, including all corporations, actions, groups, titles and characters, and all objects, currency and items acquired, developed or delivered by or to characters as a result of play through your Accounts, are the sole and exclusive property of CCP, including any and all copyrights and intellectual property rights in or to any and all of the same, all of which are hereby expressly reserved.
If you are playing the game, YOU AGREED to the EULA, so you agreed that your stuff in game has no value. Thus, your PLEXes in game have no value, regardless of what you paid for them.
Ok, but read the underlined part again, this section covers stuff that results from playing the game. Which is everything you earn/build up, all your usual ingame stuff. But not the plex. The plex you acquire by an out of game action, by paying real money to the company, not by "PLAY through your Accounts". Therefore a plex is not covered by this section.
Originally by: Tippia Neither does your PLEX for one simple reason: you cannot exchange it for money. ...
If you do that, then it's equally valid to say that 1 CNR = 1 PLEX = $15, at which point a PLEX becomes just like a CNR because both represent a monetary valule.
and that's really the key word here: "represents." A plex has no monetary value (since it cannot be converted into cash). However, it represents a monetary value, but so does everything else in the game.
You can't convert the plex to money, but this doesn't mean it doesn't represent a monetary value. You paid 15 $ it. It can be bought for 15 $ anytime. It's available on rl market for money. A CNR is not. You now conclude that this must count for the CNR aswell, since you can trade the plex for a CNR in game. But in terms of monetary vallue this happens: the moment you trade the plex for a CNR you (volutnary, not through deception) lose the value to someone else and get something that has no value instead. You devaluate the plex for yourself, someone else gets an item of monetary value for an item that has no value. So the value of the plex remains 15 $, while the CNR remains an item of no monetary value. From a legal point of view you make a (voluntary !) bad deal. If this exchange happens because you have been deceived (scammed), you lose the item of monetary value to someone else - subsume this process under the definition of fraud and you will find that it matches perfectly.
/edit: just an additional thought: you can't sell the plex for 15$ but you can trade it for a service that is worth that much (service = 1 month access to the game). You can't trade your CNR for such a service.
you keep assuming someone bought a GTC and converted it. stop. someone could buy these in game on the market with isk. im sorry you are too short sighted to realize this. should ccp keep track of those that are bought with isk and those converted but never traded...or just treat them as they are and stated to be? in game items with no special things about them? be glad you cant undock with them or we would see alot more crying from people like you.
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